Ck2 Holder Is Of Wrong Holding Type

I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. I conquered some tribal holdings in the North via holy war and, noticing the 'wrong type of holding' penalty, granted these to some of my middle sons and other relatives.

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These tribal vassals now hold a negative opinion of me due to 'wrong government type' and contribute minimal levies to me due to the tribal vs. feudal mechanics. I have since figured out the 'upgrade tribal holdings to castles' decision that can be implemented after upgrading hillforts to level 4 and now try to do this for any new tribes I conquer before giving them away.

They never explain how to build individual buildings in your holdings and the latest thing that caught me was they didn't explain what 'Holder is of wrong holding type' means. I had to look it up. Basically; it means a king or other ruling class cannot own a castle, church, or city. A tool tip could have solved that.

My question is, if I upgrade my existing tribal vassals' hillforts to level 4 for them, will the 'upgrade tribal holdings' decision upgrade these counties as well, or does it just work for my demesne holdings? This would erase the strong negative opinion modifier and grant me actual levies from these counties, so I think it's worth the expense if possible.

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  • There are 3 character types - feudal, burgher, and bishop. Feudal characters can hold castles, burghers can hold cities, and bishops can hold churches. Unless you're playing as a Merchant Republic, you are a feudal character. So you can only hold castles. If you hold cities or churches, you will get a 75% tax penalty on those holdings.
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Ck2 What Holdings To Build

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Yes, you can upgrade a tribal vassal's fort for them at your own expense. I did exactly that for some tribal Muslims I absorbed in Arabia just today. Your vassals will become feudal shortly after the stone fort IV completes construction. Their brand new castle is small so don't expect much at first, but if you have cash to spare it's worth while.

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What? Why cant I hold this town, castle whatever? I can see if i'm of a wrong religion to hold a church I guess, but other than that, what is this red font telling me?

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Ck2 Holder Is Of Wrong Holding Types

Please, I'm 5. (You know, Gaga goo goo).

Seriously, i've tried to deduce what they're saying, i've done searches in reddit and elsewhere. Seems like everyone else understands this.

:-)

Edit: thanks all. This was not explained to me anywhere else..at least that i noticed. maybe if i looked harder at the tutorial, who knows? Thanks for your time and responses.

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